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March 1- 2005
Hi,
This is just to let everyone know about my bitter experience at the
immigration desk at Vancouver airport upon my arrival there 2.5 yrs ago.
After a 10 hr flight from Heathrow, not to mention the lay-over & the
previous flight I was shocked to face a very stern & rude lady at the
counter, probably half my age & educational qualification, not to
mention inter-personal skills, who was of the opinion that anyone coming
from this part of the world is a law & order problem!! On talking to the
officer to who I was referred to, I told him that Canada doesn't seem to
the "place to live in" after all! To think of the fact that I was there
to finalize a machine purchase and not for immigration.
To be fair to all, I wouldn't classify the Canadians as racist, but they
are quite insulated and ignorant of the other communities in the world,
which I find as a step backward. One of them was even surprised that I
wore western clothes & spoke good English - "oh you are an East-Indian?"
which I found pretty amusing - after the exiting British culled out
"India" from the sub-continent there is only one India and it was quite
a shock to term us as a directional section!!!! My 11 days' stay was
probably the longest & the most boring despite the fact that I was
looked after very well by my friend & his wife. Regards,
VJ. Dubai.
March 1- 2005
Hello :
I am a vet doctor from India about to open my own pet clinic in Delhi,
India. Should I migrate to Canada or not? Will I get good jobs?
Nathan. New Delhi.
March 1- 2005
I teach race and ethnic relations at Queen's. The statistics on your
website would be very useful for teaching purposes, but I am unable to
print them out directly from that page possibly due to the format of the
graphics. Is it possible to obtain a hard copy of that material? Thanks.
Cynthia L. Canada.
March 1- 2005
Wonderful website.
Yi-ping. British Columbia.
March 2- 2005
This site exposes the "REAL" Canada! Cold and boring. Good work and more
power to you.
Aldwin. Vancouver, B.C.
March 2- 2005
I have recently been terminated of after 20 years as an Instrument
Tech. at Neenah Paper, formerly know as Kimberly Clark. I was interested
in relocating in search of employment.
Terence. Schreiber, Ontario.
March 2- 2005
I will be glad if this will help in providing me a job in my field of
profession. I have masters in electrical engineering from the Tennessee
State University in the US.
Oluwole. Ontario.
March 2- 2005
I'm graduating in Community Worker program this April 2005 but still
worried if I can get a job or not.
Maureen G. Toronto, Ontario.
March 3- 2005
Hi, shocking to read the experience of all those immigrants in Canada.
I have recently applied to migrate to Canada through a consultant in
India. I am just shell shocked. I just don't know what to do. I am in
my mid 30s and I have a bachelors degree in science. My field of
occupation is Medical Transcription, which I was told is demand in
Canada. I have got 6+ years in MT field. Please shred me some light.
Thanks a lot.
Vinod. Chennai, India.
March 3- 2005
I find very interesting the work you have done. I'm in the process to
move to Canada. I will try to help you in this cause.
Gilberto. Ecuador.
March 3- 2005
I agree. It's necessary to recognize the credentials of Latinos and foreigners in this
country. We shouldn't be getting only cleaning jobs.
William. Alberta.
March 4- 2005
I am being forced to quit my job due to a biased approach and harassment
by my manager. For almost a year I have been patient and tried my best
to establish a working relationship with my manager based on mutual
respect and fairness but to no avail. This ordeal caused me enormous
stress and frustration and as a result, fearing for my health, I have
decided to quit from my position with a negotiated settlement. Having
said this, currently I am looking for a job in a similar capacity with
an employer that fosters respect and fairness to his employees.
AM. Toronto, Ontario.
March 4- 2005
Hi, I just want to tell you that it's true that this country puts
thousands of hurdles to work as a professional, but it's our fault. I
have found that there is racism within my own community, the Latino
community. People want to destroy each other. If there is no respect
among us, if we don't value what we are, how other people would do it.
With the famous idea of "everybody is equal," all of us have to swallow
bulls... we are happy with too little. Maybe we are equal in human
issues, but not in professional terms. There are people who have studied
a lot in their own countries, sacrificing many things... what for? If we
don't value that. In my opinion we have to start respecting those highly
educated who come here. Learn from them. We do not have any other option
than to be united as immigrants.
Vanessa. Toronto, Ontario.
March 6- 2005
Thanks for creating this great website. I believe, we can gain by
sharing our various types of problems we face in Canada to overcome
them. Really it's a great job. Regards
Anup. Toronto, Ontario.
March 7- 2005
Even I have been living for almost 4 years here in Canada, I feel very
much identified with you in regards to job seeking experiences. Thanks
for this site, it relieves the stress of uncertainties of employment.
Carlos A. Trois-Rivières, Quebec.
March 8- 2005
This site contains valuable information for those who are planning to
come to Canada. It will help them making decision whether to move or
not.
Murtaza. Karachi, Pakistan.
March 8- 2005
I find it so difficult to get a job in Canada. They never return my
calls, fax messages and e-mails. I have tried to send my resume here
and there but there is no joy at all. I do not want to depend in Social
Welfare. I want to prove that I know my work but I am never given a
chance.
Khethi M. British Columbia.
March 9- 2005
Well, I had been told many good things about Canada. In fact, I'm
getting ready (finishing my degree, taking courses, etc.) to move to
Canada, but after having read these comments, I think I'll stay in
Mexico. Just imagine that all the work I have done won't be recognized
there... forget it. Thanks for the experiences on this forum.
H. Romero. Mexico.
March 10- 2005
Hello, I am having many problems trying to get a doctor. I have been in
Canada for 6 months, but I am applying for the permanent residence. My
husband is Canadian and is my sponsor. We are a young couple, and I'm
pregnant of 6 weeks. I don't have health insurance so I went to a clinic
and the price of a consultation is $160 CAD, and I have to go for a
general doctor and then to an specialist. The total cost will be almost
400 dollars. Imagine, I would have to see the doctor many times during
my pregnancy, so I don't know what to do. Do I have to abort my baby
because doctors are very expensive? I need your help please, I have
already the extension of my staying in Canada.
Anita. Lindsay, Ontario.
March 11- 2005
I am an immigrant like all of you and it is not true, that just
immigrants are treated badly. My husband is Canadian, born and raised
here and has the same problems like all of us. We made a big mistake
moving to Quebec 2 years ago and now we have to pay for it in human
misery. No jobs, total discrimination because we do not speak the Quebec
dialect of French. My husband is very well educated, with a Master's
degree, and can write extremely well -- as good as any speech writer for
politicians.
My husband was fired yesterday -- guess the reason... it was because his
international French was not considered a good enough fit for the
Quebecers and their peasant parody of French. Is not funny... So not
just immigrants have hard time- Canadians have too. Lara from Montreal
please contact me. We have a lot to share.
Bela Elia. Montreal.
March 11- 2005
I wanted to go to Canada, but I'm worried. If all of you are highly
skilled and can't make it, it would be more difficult for me. I'd better
go to gringolandia (USA) to earn dollars. If there is something I
can help you, contact me.
Santiago. Mexico.
March 13- 2005
I came across this website as I was doing the research on difficulties
facing immigrants for one of my graduate study courses. Being a
immigrant myself, I have the direct experience of the hardships shared
by all immigrants. Still, reading the comments on the forum feels so
painful. My heart go out to all of my fellow immigrants who are
struggling to survive, who are suffering discrimination, rejection,
disappointment, and loneliness.
Is this the Canada that we came for? We left everything behind: family,
friends, good jobs and comfortable lives... for the hope of a better
life. For many of us, however, it has proven to be a false hope. The
government of Canada is irresponsible. It not only dose not inform
immigrants the possible hardships they will face before they come to
Canada, it also does little to help immigrants once they get here. The
general public is indifferent if not hostile toward immigrants. For
many, they are left alone in their struggles and losses. As painful as
it is, this is the reality the majority of us face.
Just as hoping to have a better life in Canada is a false hope, hoping
now that the government and the mainstream society of Canada will care
and help us on their own will also be a false hope. How many of us have
experienced that nobody cares, that we are all alone in our struggles
and suffering? It's time to wake up and to help ourselves! Like those
who created this website (I applause and thank you for your wonderful
work!), we should come together and help each other, be there for each
other, and empower each other. We are all in the same boat. Nobody
should feel alone and helpless. If we can not always ease each other's
struggle, we can always let each other know that somebody cares by
listening and empathizing, by offering a word of encouragement, or by
doing something practical like informing somebody about a potential job
opportunity that we know of.
To the designers of this website, if you could create a easy way that
the visitors can respond easily and readily to each other's comments, I
think it will really help bringing us together and helping each other.
Let us not suffer in vain. Let our pain create love instead of hate. Let
us rise above the hardship we face and become a better person. There is
always hope.
Xuemei. Fredericton, New Brunswick.
March 13- 2005
To Xuemei and all of you willing to interact with other people who have
participated on this forum:
Due to privacy issues, we do not publish/release email
addresses or any other personal information from our visitors (see our
Terms of Service).
We only provide that information to serious employers who are
in Canada and willing to hire any of the professionals listed on our Job Wanted pages.
If you want to interact with other immigrants or with people who are
interested in employment issues in Canada, you are invited to
participate in our
Member Area.
Sincerely,
Canadaimmigrants Team
March 13- 2005
I'm looking for a better company where it's capabilities can fit my
ambitions and where I could be fairly appreciated.
Namir. Windsor, Ontario.
March 13- 2005
Hola, les contaré de mi mala experencia con inmigración en Canadá,
incluso me esposaron, me regresaron en el primer avión al día siguiente.
Me dijeron que personas como yo no son aptas para vivir allá, sólo
porque no sabía inglés y el "traductor" no se explicaba bien en español.
Me trataron con la punta del pie, me pregunto si es así como son los
países primermundistas. Les recomiendo que se queden en su país en vez
de trabajar como limpiador de baños en otro.
Maria P. México.
March 13- 2005
Ever since I landed in Canada I have been looking for an opportunity in
IT sector as a Database Administrator and I completed 3 years till
today. I am unemployed in my career job and looking forward to get any
opportunity in the field of information technology to contribute my
skill as database administrator.
Margaret. Canada.
March 14- 2005
Hello readers,
My name is Mike. My wife and I immigrated quiet a few years ago to this
country. We are grateful (except for the long winters and black flies)
to what our creator here provided. Country Canada can be stunning and
beautiful.
In contrast it is negative and stressful to experience the economic
reality and situation many immigrants and many other Canadians can find
them in. Especially when peoples hoping for the better but seen their
stagnant situation even getting worse.
I am a professional engineer with proper degrees recognized all over
Europe. In an unwise moment of my youth we fell in love with the idea of
searching for greener pastures, had friends who had relatives in BC and
infected us with the Canada bug. Both of us had excellent prospects,
decent occupations and jobs but the "fernweh "(state of mental
dysfunction caused by lack of correct and true information and the
belief we are young and can make a living anywhere) hit us.
Simply put Canada was an experience, too often a bad one.
Unfortunately
this country does not recognize any credentials, be it completed
apprenticeships or professional degrees (not the ones from Germany or
many other lands for that matter). We made the best of the situation and
survived always hoping Canada would wake up sooner or later. As in the
case of many skilled immigrants daily needs were to be met, kids to
be raised, to survive any job must be considered etc...
Can you imagine the frustration someone has to go through to realize
his potential and ability to help but being rebuffed to succeed .You
also feel some shame for not making it but as long as there is belief in
one self stubbornly proceeding along this path. Yes I should but
didn't (go back that is)! We lost our roots in the old country and were
re -growing new ones here. It is difficult to hop back and forth and
costly of course. So we made the best of it. Yes hard work pays off.,
but for a price. Like many other newcomers the realization sets in too
late. Change is difficult and frustrations sets in. Hindsight is 20 -20.
But what really hurts is the fact nothing has changed in Canadian
society (government, politically ,organizations yes and some peoples
too.)
In the province Nova Scotia outward migration is a serious concern to
leaders (Government,. political ,business etc). Here, like in the rest
of the country a rush and buzz of newspaper articles, stories on CBC
radio and other activities about IMMIGRATION took place recently to deal
with some of the issues. Talk is cheap!
Oh what momentum I thought, finally some discussions about more useful
and pressing topics (sorry I don't need same sex recognition). What a
chance and hope, but not much seems to change. Of course feds forwarded
about $800 000 to Canadian Engineering association to help assess
foreign credentials. Their website invited me to shell out some extra
few hundreds dollars to be assessed. I do know what I am and what it
stands for to have the title Dipl. Ing FH (German engineering degree). You would think that Canada belonging to the G7 (now8 ) would have a
clue about what goes on in counties like Germany etc in regards to
training of professionals. They are not handed out for good looks!
This is what happened in New Glasgow NS recently: A public forum was
arranged with invites to participants from business and community
leaders etc. The organizer was the PRDC Pictou Country Regional
Development Corporation an offshoot of ACOA. A good turn out was
divided into five groups to discuss various topics relating to what to
do with economic stagnation and how to increased economic activities in
this area...
Among the five topics I chose participation in "Immigration." The
presenter explained the urgent need for retaining immigrants in this
area because population and of course federal transfer payments are
shrinking. And of course concerns about economic benefits to get
immigrants with plenty of money and needed skills. I don't know but it
seems pretty weird if the original inhabitants (outward migration/ kids
have to move away-why???) call for immigrants to fill the voids and help
pay for this situation here in Pictou County and elsewhere.
There were three immigrants in this group of ten or so. The chair
presented three prepared questions and invited comments and suggestions.
(see websites references). Many useful but banal comments were made. But
the main issue to attract and retain immigrants was the recognition of
credentials (Not just the assessment) so that a meaningful employment
and income situation for immigrants can be achieved. This major point
was made by all immigrants present as well as by some others. Following
this the PRDC issued a Press release on these meetings of January 13.
2005.
Even so this most important problem was addressed in the forum group;
the PRDC report treated this issue almost like a footnote. The following
news reported in local papers (Pictou Advocate and New Glasgow 's The
Evening News) also didn't mention this problem.
The local Pictou Chamber of Commerce is closely connected to PRDC and
issued a special edition of its monthly newsletter" Chamber of Commerce
UPDATE" Feb.2005 containing seven major items on immigration, actual
the Newsletter is titled "Special: IMMIGRATION ISSUE". But guess what?
Not one word about immigrants credentials, assessments, recognitions
and related problems. Like they don't exists! Check it out:
www.wearepictoucounty.com/prdc and
www.pictouchamber.com.
I as well as some other immigrants I talked to could not understand this
blatant omission. This situation sucks big time!!!! Establishment is
hiding and sticking their head in the sand.
Canada must change this attitude, the lack of recognition, this is not
right!" Deceive and Betray "(Canadian Immigration policy as its works
out) stinks. Immigrants don't want to be modern Serfs.
Is there a political consensus or interest out there to do something
about it? I myself would like to find out more about what can be done,
all the way including legal actions for this systemic racism, this
nonsense. Canada is playing with our lifetimes!
If Canada does not want immigrants to meaningfully participate in this
country then please let us know before we come and put warnings out
there to help make better decisions. Thanks for your interest and
patience. Regards,
Mike S. Nova Scotia.
PS. I would welcome any comments to be forwarded.
March 14- 2005
To Mike and everybody else:
Why don't you all become members and we can exchange our ideas better.
You can try the member's forum for free for 3 months. You should be
aware that the membership fee will be waived for you if you currently
cannot afford it.
If anybody has an idea how to start a class action suit I would love to
be part of it. "The more the merrier". The more the less expensive.
Hilde, BC
March 14- 2005
I am writing your website on my bibliography, but I can't find the
accessed date of the statistics page website. Please email me back.
Brenda. Nepean, Canada.
March 16- 2005
This site is important for immigrants.
Zahid. Melbourne, Australia.
March 16- 2005
My solidarity to your actions to help immigrants not only in Canada, but
around the world.
Pablo A. Cuenca, Ecuador.
March 16- 2005
It's true, it's not easy to get a good job in Canada but lets face it,
it's not easy also to find a good job even in our birth countries, but
this country is big and rich not like my country in Lebanon That's why
people immigrate over here there's a lot of potential for this country
to grow and succeed, but Canadian people must help their fellow
immigrants by hiring them even if they don't have the Canadian
experience ... there's no such thing called Canadian experience ... I
never heard of it in my life it's an excuse for not hiring...
I personally think things will change for better, but the government of
Canada and all political parties should make a priority to educate
people about the importance of hiring different people from different
culture in school and universities.
Canadians must not have the good jobs and the rest get the shi... ones.
Sometimes I go to a gas station and all I see is white people working
for example at Ultramar gas station a (French oil company..) this is
racism... Immigrants should boycott companies like that. It's
unacceptable and the list goes on and on. What Canadian experience do
you need to work in a gas station? A gas station is a gas station
whether it's in China, Jamaica, Lebanon, or Canada. Stop laughing at us
and tell us that you don't like us and tell you government to stop
bringing immigrants to this country.
People in Canada should understand bringing immigrants into this country
is for the benefit of this country... Immigrants bring with them growth
and prosperity on the long run for this country. And we as immigrants we
should should be patient because things will change and look at the
bright side we shouldn't give up so easily look out there there's a lot
of successful immigrants from all over the world in Canada ....
Worrying about healthcare all the time is not good it's like we are a
sick nation. We have to get involved in the government to change laws
and regulations before new immigrants come... and that's why it's
important to vote for the right people who promise to do such changes,
or is about time for a guy like me to get involved in politics because
there's lot of changing to be made...
Good luck to everybody,
Moni. Montreal, Quebec.
March 17- 2005
I have applied for Canada migration. I am a business consultant in
India. Please guide if it's worth moving. Will I be able to get a good
job there??
Shalini. India.
March 17- 2005
I just turn a year here in Canada (Calgary) and I'm just wondering if
someone can help me please find a better job that fits my profession.
As the former Assistant Manager of a Food Service Industry, I appreciate
the importance of a following that comes from the recommendations of
satisfied clients and employer. I am considered a diplomatic manager,
which enables me to get along well with clients, supervisors, and crew.
If you are seeking for an employee who has the ability to maintain high
morale among workers increases retention and contributes to safety,
which is a crucial factor in the success of any work. Then please
consider what I have to offer.
Dhel. Calgary, Alberta.
March 17- 2005
I have found very interesting some opinions of people who feel betrayed
by the system. My question is where fit my responsibility in the
scenario. In my situation I question if I was wrong in following my
dream of becoming a social worker and counsellor psychologist because
after too many interviews I have not been able to obtain a position in
my field. I have to face the reality that I speak with an accent. I am
55 years old man and belong to a minority group.
The Government and non-government family social services and community
agencies have their own social barriers because they want people who
have excellent writing and verbal English skills. Presently, I do not
have the psychological energy to continue participating in interviews
and within a week getting the REGRETTING LETTER stating that I was not
successful in the competition. Moreover, my student loan is in
collection, which makes the situation more stressful.
I do not blame the government, but the power trip and lack of vision of
the individuals in position of gatekeeper such as human resources
officers and others who take the job interviews. Their response is that
I do not have experience but all the others graduates of my class are
working. My big question is where they got their experience, as a social
worker I am aware of the Canadian systemic employment barriers better
say SYSTEMIC DISCRIMINATION.
Orlando. Edmonton, Alberta.
March 17- 2005
I can't agree more with all I have read. Migrating to Canada in 2002
after obtaining my so-called PR from the UK was a eye opener. It is
true that the grass is always greener on the other side.
I had no choice but to run back after 6 months. The government has been
economic with the truth for so long about the shortage of skilled
personnel. They have continued to spin the truth, and they know it.
All they want is your hard earned dough - nothing more.
Land buoyant and stay penniless, or leave penniless. I can only state
that if you still want to go to Canada to live, make sure you have a
plan B or even C. Your country may be better than Canada! Despite the
huge immigrants year in year out, why is the population static? Tons of
Canadian born are migrating to Europe, the US, Africa, and Asian on the
pretence of Aid jobs. The gospel truth is that Canada is a dry land,
with con stars.
It is CANADA DRY!!!
So mate, heed the warning.
Philip I. Plymouth, England.
March 17- 2005
Hello out there in cyberspace
I am grateful for this channel of communication to the ones affected and
the interested ones. This is a very professional site; very decent and
easy to navigate.
If Canadian governments please would be similar: clear and honest!
Upfront and living up to their promises and no hidden agendas please!
I just received a four page flyer from Government of Canada titled: Our
communities...Our successes! (AAZFC no 2252B) in color and likely costly
to taxpayers (How many sponsorship dollars diverted??)
It bemoans the rural population decline in Atlantic Canada. The low
interest of immigrants to come and to stay and other small tidbits
stories are presented.
I have lived in 4 different provinces and visited most of the other
provinces. Great Country! To me Nova Scotia is home and this is fine
(winter and more hurricanes?? excluded). So what is wrong here in
particular? Why are their own peoples pressed to move on to greener
pastures and leave (ONT. ALB. etc), they have the Canadian experience
and education so highly wanted. Don't they? Do we all have to crawl into
a oversized ghetto to survive?
This above mentioned pamphlet does not address the main problem of
integration and fair employment chances to newcomers at all:
"COMPLETE EVALUATION AND RECOGNITION OF SCHOOLING AND EDUCATION RECEIVED
IN PRIOR HOME COUNTRIES FUNDED BY THE ONES WHO WANT IT" "REASONABLE
UPGRADING COURSES SPONSORED BY GOVERNMENT THE RECEIVER OF TAX FOR
IMPROVED INCOMES REALIZED" "TRANSITIONAL TITLES TO DESIGNATE SIMILAR
EDUCATION STANDARDS ON A PROBATION BASE IF NEED BE" or ELSE PUT THE SIGN
UP: NO IMMIGRANTS WANTED!!!
The engineers from China are managing to produce an ever increasing
amount of technical goods flooding the markets everywhere. You think the
could not build a bridge or some other things if the come here? To all
the engineers out there proudly wearing the iron ring. Remember the
story? You know how many bridges collapsed or nearly so in Nova Scotia
alone over the last few years? You think that only you have the answers
lets say to fix the Sidney Tar Pond problem? Actually the peoples of
this country made their statement long ago: The distrust their own
professionals and would not like them to go ahead with incineration to
deal with the sludge etc. They have no trust that Canadian
Professionals can do it properly.
How about Walkerton? No engineer in site on the shop floor or at the
management level. How about the missed opportunities to develop, design
and produce goods in THIS country. Just look in the stores!
Do peoples realize that the protected status given to engineers
(Associations like APENS) by CANADA have been misused to close the door
to progress and ensure good income only for the ones inside (not all,
some get paid lousy).
What did the peoples receive for the approx 80 million dollars spend so
far. (Tar ponds in Sidney). Question is what will the peoples receive
for the hundreds of millions promised?
You guessed it I am one of the many professional not allowed to work and
don't like it! The protectionism has not brought this country to prosper
as it could. I am an engineer with two highly regarded degrees (FEANI),
completed trade certification and lots of experience, yes also Canadian
experience. I have commissioned and evaluated Engineering Studies,
worked along side some and I am not impressed to much. I have worked
with master candidates who could not recognize tools nor work with them.
Professions do not take place on green tables in nice offices alone.
To all the P. Engs what are you afraid of? You are not there where you
ought to be, not in numbers and not in quality (ingenuity). Just give us
a Canadian made chain saw for example. You are the creators of products
and services and would need all the help you can get. Thousands of under
and unemployed would be grateful if you do act .
Just watch the news and look how often engineers are not mentioned or
are not part of the story. Most happenings out there have a technical
connection, the word engineer or engineering is hardly mentioned. It's
time to reevaluate and be realistic about your current role in society.
You seem to be a minority hidden from view in a walled enchanted
Castle. I am sure that most Canadians will accept foreign professionals
who bring their life and knowledge into this country.
Canada save these flashy brochures and put you money where the mouth is.
To deny and hide under hidden agendas is inhuman and called systemic
racism , please stop!!!
Enough damage has been done already.
PS.
To all the engineers known and unknown no personal offence please!
I can not change my color and looks but will work on my language skill
and dialect. CAN YOU CHANGE???
Cheers,
Mike S. Nova Scotia.
March 18- 2005
Good day:
I work as the Marketing/Customer Services Executive for the Progressive
Intercultural Community Services Society (PICS) Vancouver. We are a
non-profit HRSD funded agency that offers employment services to
newcomers, immigrants and visible minorities. I was wondering how I
could advertise our no-cost services on your website?
Lisa. Vancouver.
March 19- 2005
Hello everyone, I am sad to have read some of your letters about the
plight you faced in CANADA. I have lived in SINGAPORE all my 30 years of
existence and I know what is liked to be in a minority, being from a
mixed parentage.
Singapore is made up of 65% Chinese and the rest of the population are a
mixed of Malays, Indians and about 1% my kind. I am about to leave for
Canada in search of a better life for me and my family. After reading
all the letters in the forum I would like to tell you about my country.
First of all my country have no minimal wage, which mean companies can
pay you as low as possible. A job at McDonalds pays you about $US2.50
per hour, a cleaning position pays about $US450-600 per month a job in
the high fashion industry, example Yyes Saint Laurent pays $US600 basic
and about $US130 per month on average in commission. Most manual jobs
like construction and anything to do with hard back breaking work under
the hot humid weather are done by workers from Bangladesh, India,
Thailand, Indonesia and Myanmar. The companies that hire them claim for
years that locals do not want these jobs, but reality is that they only
want cheap labour who can work anywhere for up to 12 hours or more a
day.
The cost of living is high. The so called public housing which can only
be bought by locals cost about US$100 thousand for a 110square meters
apartment which by the way is subsidized. A house will cost you more
than US$500 thousand. A new car here would set you back anywhere between
US$40 thousand to US$150 thousand depending on size and make. These same
cars would cost a fraction of about one third or less in Canada.
We do not get free health care so most Singaporeans will not have enough
savings to last in their old age. As health cost rises hospitals look
for other means to cut cost and the number one solution is to always
hire cheap labour from poor countries. That is always been the solution
for most companies here. I have nothing against people from poor
countries, I understand that they just want to have the same things as
you and I. But I do not agree that paying them poorly and making them
work long hours is doing them any favour.
In contrast these same workers could probably earn much more and afford
more in Canada than in Singapore. As for professionals all I can say is
that there are more supply than demand. If you do not mind high cost of
living and you are a pro than you may find a good job here. Singapore is
a safe place to live with excellent schools, hospitals world class
facilities like the best airport and best public transport in the world.
Unfortunately every thing comes with a hefty price tag. I am not saying
that countries like Canada are cheap but at least the wage to cost of
living ratio is far better than Singapore and a lot of Asian countries.
That is why Canada sees an influx of Asian migrants over the years.
I am worried about the future world where the will be no need for huge
factories and huge amount of labour and countries that developed too
fast in the past will only have empty buildings and spent resources.
China and India are the factories that that will be the main producers
to the Americas, Europe and Japan the rest of us will be just spectators
trying to get a slice of the pie. For me, I am betting that Canada being
bigger than most Asian countries put together and less populated and
polluted will have lots of room to grow. Taking a different route from
other industrialized nations where modernization have created concrete
jungles. Best of luck to all of you brave people who just want a life
to live and a place to call home.
Robin D. Singapore.
March 19- 2005
Well Robin,
Singapore is well known as one of the most developed countries in Asia,
and everywhere you go nowadays, cheap labor is the trend. Why do you
think American companies are outsourcing goods and services to other
countries? You guessed it right, cheap labor my friend. To compare
Canada from Singapore I think is simply not fair. First of all, the
composition of population is completely different although both
countries has a touch of the late British Empire. The currency value are
not the same, that is another factor you have to take into account.
Weather is fine if you end up leaving in British Columbia but if you end
in Ontario or Edmonton, I will guarantee that you'd wish you never left
Singapore.
We here in Canada are not trying to tell prospective immigrants not to
come, we are simply sharing our experiences, hardship and frustrations,
We've seen things here that one that usually don't expect to see from a
G7 country. The housing here is just about the same price as in your
country, the only difference is that, they are much much bigger here.
Yes, we have medical care, but are you aware that to get an MRI if you
need one, that chances are, you'll be dead before you are called for a
schedule? Canada is a nice country, if and only if, the govt. knows how
to run it. The problem is they don't.
I'll say it again, this country is the South Africa of old, wherein
majority of Canadians think they are the De Clerks and that we the
immigrants, are the Mandelas and Kunta kenti's. The decision is yours
and yours alone. Hopefully, you won't make the same mistake that most of
us did. You are better off going to America or Europe.
Think my friend as it is your future that is at stake here.
Rudy. Burnaby, B.C.
March 20- 2005
FOOD FOR THOUGHT ! Don't eat while you read this you might choke or if
you throw up direct it to the "gatekeepers"!
What is the difference between an immigrant and a scapegoat?
For their sins to be atoned (make amends) the tribes of Israel of
ancient times ceremonially prepared a goat and led it into the
wilderness to perish. The belief was to attach all their sins of the
peoples to the goat and it were led away into an inhospitable place
where it would be certainly eliminated by wild beasts or suffer
starvation. Since the scapegoat was destroyed the peoples felt atoned
(relieved) of the sins and the cycle of sin started all over again. (to
be politically correct other tribes may have also done so?!)
The modern equivalent:
For the socioeconomic mismanagement and squandering (living off some one
else its back and overexploitation) the established peoples of this
country (and others) in modern times need to regenerate ever increasing
gross national product to balance their need for consumption and greed.
What can they do? So they lead eager peoples from foreign lands (who
like the greener grass on the other side of the fence and also a bit
jumpy just like goats, and are also considered less worth than other
domestic animals = means disposable) into a ceremonial procedure
called immigration process (pretty costly and fancy too) and drop them
into this new country with little concern for their survival .
It is a jungle out thee, right? Needless to say pressures (non
recognition of education and credentials, low paying jobs, much
unemployment, systemic and plain racism, expensive living costs, culture
shock etc) hurt them in many ways. You can see many immigrants being
ground up into poverty and worse. (Wander and look around in most cities
of this second to none country, or just study past and recent statistics
on income and poverty) Unimpressed, the elite line their pockets in
perpetuity and the cycle starts
again.
Mike S. Nova Scotia.
March 21- 2005
Dear readers,
Last week I saw an add in the newspaper about a conference on
immigration to Canada offered by Benchetrit and Associates. It caught my
attention since they were looking for university educated people. There
was a number we could call to get more information. When I called the
number, the lady told me that I should bring 200.00 pesos and my
curriculum vitae which I did thinking that they were hiring people to
work in Canada
When I got there they gave us a one hour conference telling us that they
can assist us to apply for any visas to Canada and that it would cost us
around US$4000.00 for them to assist us. What a scam!! Shame on that law
firm who keeps doing false advertising. Stay away from those scammers
who are desperate for your money.
Yours,
G. Ramirez. Mexico City.
March 23- 2005
I started with voluntary work as a path to start my career within the
Canadian job market. I am having mixed feelings about voluntary work,
wondering if am I not doing 'unpaid work' rather than voluntary work,
where I was hoping to gain some experience and additional skills. I even
gave my baby to babysitter while away on voluntary work hoping to get a
job in that organisation. But my greatest problem is that I am
overqualified, do not have the Canadian accent, smell 'Masala' according
to my employment counsellors (I have had several of them)
Bindu. Mississauga, Ontario.
March 23- 2005
My name is Claire Rukundo. I came to this country in 1994 from Burundi
with a medical doctor degree. All my 11 years I have been working in low
paying jobs (Home support work, manufacturing, customer service
representative, volunteering,) because I need to feed my kids.
Recently I applied for HRDC training for a holistic nutrition program, I
spent 2 weeks doing researches on counselor recommendation to show that
I am qualified for the training. Afterwards HRDC rejected my application
saying that I have enough experience and marketable skills to help me
find a job myself.
There is RACISM everywhere in Canada, but it is up to each community to
come up with some solutions. If you meet an American, he is proud to be
American, but if you meet a Canadian he will tell you that he is
Italian, Russian, African, Jamaican, Indian, Chinese, Korean, so far
nobody is proud to be Canadian except only on a passport. We all bring
our culture, religion, and color in workplace.
That's why our economy (corporations) is facing bankruptcy all the time.
CEOs of companies and politicians should work together and learn why
Canada is heading to such poverty. My next move will be USA because is
more open to immigrants like me.
Claire. Ontario, Canada.
March 23- 2005
Please kindly help me to find a suitable job.
Naresh. Toronto, Canada.
March 23- 2005
Thanks for this forum. Get to know the Canadian reality for immigrants
has helped me a lot.
My husband and I are about to finish the administrative process to get
the Resident Visa, and it doesn't make me to happy to go to Canada, but
we have spent lots of our savings on it.
I think that if we don't do it, I will always feel guilty within my
marriage because of not supporting this decision. That's why I'm asking
for advice. I would like to know how easy to start a business is.
We applied for the skilled immigrant visa, no as business immigrants.
Now I'm worried about what I read and I know from fellow Ecuadorians who
live there. They have told me about how they are being discriminated in
Canada, and their education is not recognized.
If possible, I'd like to contact Doris A. from Ontario, who sent a
comment on December 23, 2004. Thank you so much. Best Regards,
Angela. Ecuador.
March 23- 2005
Hello,
I appreciate all the views expressed here. They are factual and
represent the opinions of thousands of voiceless individuals who have to
bear silently, the inhuman and degrading treatments we receive every day
in this country. The truth has to be told, and I don't care how. Keep up
with your advocacy.
Yours Truly,
Veronica C. Hamilton, Ontario.
March 24- 2005
I am very impressed with this website. You are exactly what we all have
been telling so far. Of late, Canada/Ontario govt. is thinking of
programs of recognizing foreign trained professionals in engineering,
medicine and so on. But the damage of having remained out of profession
has already been done. The $20 annual fee is quite reasonable
considering the cost of operating this platform but at the moment I am
even short of that - such is the misery I am in after living in this
"land of opportunity" for 9 long years. Now I only dream of going back
to my motherland and start from scratch there. The land is not so
infertile there like Canada and if I were there from 1997 - 2005 I would
not have been ruined like what I have become now.
Satindra. Toronto, Ontario.
March 24- 2005
I commend this initiative. The stance of moral persuasion of the
sponsors is also good.
I truly believe that Canada would be a much stronger and virile country
if the strength of diversity is honestly exploited by all.
Exclusion from the mainstream obviously hurts the perpetrators too
because on the long run, a man that has things to offer, would continue
to seek greener pastures to the detriment of the hostile environment.
Tunde. Ontario.
March 24- 2005
Hallo,
What a good feeling to be able to speak up and call a spade a spade. We
are not colored but nevertheless feel the brunt of this inhumane
treatment of immigrants.
We met many older immigrants who came here in the years after the war :
"Hard working jobs were always available; not the best wages but someone
could at least start his life and build up from there. It was always
assumed that first generation immigrants will manage while their
offspring can prosper at a more elevated human level.
So as a parent you could hold still and shut up. The mental and physical
abuse especially to peoples from the defeated nations after 1945 is
still resonating in the memories of them and their descendants."
Of course being colored is a major handicap and adds to the injustice.
And today placing of a few minorities into nice and better positions can
only being seen as a farce, window-dressing and clever dress up because
the reality is depressingly different.
What cannot be emphasized often enough is the effect the enormous stress
of unfulfilled lives has put on relationships resulting in human
disaster among family members. It seems that the dissolution und
destruction of conventional family arrangements is targeted and
accelerated by those unresolved dilemmas.
Please compare the different groups and study the family types most
prevalent in them. There is a marked difference here. The situation is
still changing and fast; but not to the better. It is increasingly more
difficult to get the feet on the ground and start a human and decent
life. In the end it affects all of society and humanity. But patterns of
thinking and behaviour have to change; there is no alternative anymore!
Marion S. Nova Scotia.
March 25- 2005
I am Canadian born but face many barriers to employment. I speak and
write excellent English. I graduated from university with a microbiology
degree. Since 1997 I have been downsized from a plant closure (400 jobs
lost) after working there 3 years and let go after a business
transformation project designed to increase productivity at a
multinational food plant. More than 300 jobs in management and
production were replaced due to automation and improved productivity
measures.
I have found that my university degree is not acceptable credential for
transferring my skills into related work such as clinical lab or
infection control or pharmaceutical. Positions at related companies now
pay half of what I made before because they have deskilled lab
technician / research positions and offered training for these jobs in 2
year college programs. Because of increased credential requirements and
lack of skill transferability in my former field I have to re-career and
may have to drastically alter my income expectations. I have tried many
times to land a government job but have not been able to get an
interview due to the high competition.
I know this site was originally created for immigrants but if possible I
would like to be represented as well, as a person who is suffering
because of the protectionist credential requirements and education
adjustments.
Jean M. Toronto, Canada.
March 25- 2005
Hi,
I am in Canada since the early 80s and I came from Poland. I got soon a job
in my specialty at Nortel in Calgary as Engineer-builder of test systems
for telecom manufacturing. I was happy for about 10 years and worked
very hard. I asked my intelligent boss about need to became a
professional engineer and I was told that there is no need at all.
Next I tied in SK at SaskTel and they wanted professional engineer
title. P ENG Association wanted me to pass 12 exams while University of
Regina declared that I am an equivalent of Master in Engineering in
there. This did not mean anything to Association.
I noticed that Association VP has no engineering experience at all
because he did sit there since years.
Finally I passed exams and obtained eligibility. People who were my
examiners evaluated my very high and my opinion from NorTel was good.
I wasted 3 years of work to prove that Association itself won't pass
criteria of modern engineering.
Next I went to US and worked in good companies. IN industry nobody ever
bothered me about PENG status. I think this is discrimination by
Asociation and SaskTel. Who needs in electronics PEng staus ?. That's
nonsense.
Jan. St. John's, Newfoundland.
March 25- 2005
I was a teacher who never could get a permanent contract with the
Catholic School Board in Calgary.
Mysteriously and in spite of excellent job reviews, my promised
permanent contract never came to be.
I could no longer wait to see if things one day improve in Canada. I
left in October 2001 after almost 20 years of "trying to make it" and
never attaining my goals.
Maria. France.
March 25- 2005
Our case is pretty similar to others...
We are mature people -over 40 years old. We have two kids, one is 21 and
the other is 28 years old, and we planned to migrate to Canada. We hired
the Zaiman Associates law firm from Winnipeg. They took our case. They
don't take impossible cases.
In short: we paid US$4,000 for nothing. We just had an interview at the
Canadian Embassy in Caracas. They rejected our application because of
our age. The interviewer, from the Quebec government, even made fun of
our age. The lawyers illegally took part of our money, and never
presented our applications to Immigration. We just had that interview
before, and we were rejected because we didn't speak French perfectly.
From all of this we just have a bad sentiment. Canadian lawyers are
taking advantage from the people who want to migrate. The Canadian
government doesn't care if the applicants are professionals, highly
skilled -my kids are university graduates. What do they really want? I
just know one thing for sure; I don't want to go to Canada. I'm not
interested. I just want to know if I can get my money back that Zaiman Associates
illegally took. Thanks.
Maria E. Valencia, Venezuela.
March 25- 2005
I'm a newcomer in Canada as a skilled worker landed immigrant.
Unfortunately, my "skilled- worker's experience" is appeared to be
no-used here in Montreal, as I've sought for jobs more than 6 months,
but still jobless. I'm glad to be a trial member to your forum, as I
hope, to hear more from you all. Sincerely,
Anh. Montreal, Canada.
March 26- 2005
I have been a landed immigrant for one year and still cannot find a
decent job. So I decided to enroll for a full-time Computing certificate
program at a college in Vancouver.
I have sent my application together with one Diploma and one Bachelor
degree in Computing Science from the most reputable Australian college
and university to meet the entrance requirements for the program.
I was shocked and depressed after receiving a letter from them asking me
to take A MATH 12 TEST !!!
It's just UNBELIEVABLE!!! I feel TOTALLY miserable... :(
They ignore your working experiences, qualifications, and now respect.
John. Vancouver, B.C.
March 28- 2005
Hi Sir!!
I'm from Sri Lanka. Now I am working in Kuwait. I think it's very
difficult to get a job in Canada for me. I have tried to send my resume
here and there but there is no joy at all.
I have been looking for employment in Canada for 8 years. I have applied
for many jobs many company here is company names; Spheroid Staffing
Calgary, Childcare Advantage, Canadian Nanny, and Caledonian Offshore.
But no response. I have been turned down at every opportunity. Now I've
already paid money. They cheated on me. Can someone please help me? I am
looking for work any general warehouse work anywhere in Canada. That I
had won in my life for nothing.
Badurdeen. Kwait.
March 28- 2005
I think it is time that someone in Canada stands up to the bigoted folk
that suppress all newcomers and hold them in abject poverty through
discrimination. Apartheid of South Africa had nothing on the unspoken
"apartheid" of Canada, except that it was more honest and in-your-face
than the Apartheid that is practised in Canada.
Linda. Toronto, Ontario.
March 28- 2005
I am a US graduate in Finance and have worked in Malaysia for 17 years.
I arrived in Canada in August 2002 and find it difficult in gaining a
entry level position in a bank or corporate sector. I have had vast
experience held in senior positions both in the financial and corporate
sectors in Malaysia.
I have been with this small credit union for the past 2 years but there
is no room for improvement. I am a hard worker and earn respect from all
my previous and present employers. I just need to be given a chance to
prove my worth. Thanks.
Singh. Alberta.
March 29- 2005
My wife, 2 children and I came to Canada 3 years ago, leaving behind my
country of origin my family, friends, own house, good jobs and
comfortable lives, in the hope of getting a much better life and future
for our children here. During my first few months, I enrolled at SAIT
for an upgrade in my AutoCAD.
After finishing my course, I tried to apply but no one would bother to
call me back. There's this company who took me in as Project Manager
Assistant doing estimating for Project Managers who are not even as
qualified as I am being a Civil Engineer by profession.
I patiently waited for an opportunity to upgrade again and last June
2004, I graduated with Honors from Devry University - Calgary Campus
with a Bachelors Degree in Information Technology. I applied to several
companies, hoping against hope that having a Canadian education would
give me the edge to at least prove my worth. But until this time, I
have not heard from any of them. There are moments that I am losing
hope, and there are moments that I am regretting having to have come
here with my family.
Coming across this website is a relief knowing that my family and I are
not alone in this struggle. I just hope and pray the Government of
Canada will try at least their best to address the grievances and
problems we immigrants are facing right now. After all, their strict
screening and approval of granting an Immigrant status to us qualified
professionals, they should fully try their best to integrate us to to
the mainstream society with no prejudice and bias just because we are
not like them.
Antonio. Calgary, Alberta.
March 29- 2005
As the son of an immigrant I'd like to express how disappointed I am in
the negativity that a lot of people seem to express in this web site. I
sympathize with all of you struggling to find your place in this country
but I do have a question. What did you expect? Did you think that all
your problems would automatically resolve themselves when you arrived
here? That someone would take you by the hand and get you a job?
My parents worked very to get to where they are today and help achieve
my goals. Yes they where lonely, poor and it wasn't easy. But it isn't
easy for anyone. Canada is a great country for immigrants. There is very
little racism where all are treated equally. Whether you are young, old
educated or not all are treated equally, so don't expect to be better
treated because you're a doctor or a lawyer. You will have to wait in
line like everyone else. Immigrating is difficult so if your not willing
to make the effort to start a new life in a new country you may consider
staying at home. Immigrating might solves some problems but will also
create new ones, so take that into consideration before you making a
decision
Mark Rosario. Toronto, Ontario.
March 29- 2005
I am so very disgusted with Canada right now and when you learn why I
think you will agree this is a soul destroying nation whose institutions
take perverse pleasure in squandering the many talents and potential
contributions of its immigrant population.
I got a letter from the Admissions Office of McGill today stating that
my application to the Faculty of Law had been rejected. The body of the
letter, while trying to sound conciliatory, contained some very
demeaning and prejudicial remarks that make a mockery of the fundamental
principle of due process - something I would hasten to add is what
Canada's legal system is supposedly based on.
"Although Committee members felt that, given your background, you would
be in a position to contribute to the class, they were very strongly of
the view that you would benefit from undergraduate studies in Canada in
a field other than law"
How wonderfully dismissive! The sentence just reeks with condescension.
Instead of citing a stronger pool of candidates for my inadmissibility,
the ivory tower mages of McGill's Faculty of Law chose instead to
overstep their authority by presuming know more than myself - not to
mention the other faculties in question -- about where my interests lie.
Incredible to think these people, with their prejudices and
discriminatory views, teach law for a living.
But wait, it gets worse.
"Among other things, such studies would provide an opportunity to
improve on your writing skills in English and French"
Inherent in the sentence above is an assumption that because I am an
immigrant my writing skills must surely be in need of improvement! This
assertion is all the more incredible because I am a French citizen from
France and my level of French was never subjected to an evaluation
during the whole application process! Again, they presume to judge my
abilities without any facts or benchmarks to justify their assessment.
For the Faculty of Law to suggest that my writing skills need to be
improved is simply outrageous given that their critique of my language
skills is without foundation.
I am so terribly disgusted with the biased and unfair treatment I
received at the hands of the Admissions Committee. I wish for all to
know just how bigoted and intellectually dishonest they really are.
Apparently, at McGill they don't feel there is a need, nor an interest,
to have more immigrant voices in Canada's judicial system. We are just
too stupid and uninteresting for the legal profession. Better to stick
us in social work where we can improve our writing skills amongst the
illiterate, disenfranchised masses from the third world.
Stella. Laval, Quebec.
March 31- 2005
To Mark:
If your parents suffered as you say, why are you still so proud of
Canada. Don't you love your parents or what? Really, all you said was
very very selfish, according your line of thought the hard times for
immigrants should be forever. At the end, you know, you hate this
country. The minute it gets invaded by whoever, the minute the whole
country will fall. This country has no national identity and when Canada
is in trouble all what people will think is "well I'm the descendant of
an immigrant and he had a rough time, he paid his dues, so why should I
go out and give my life for it". Sure Mark you are part of the system,
and your post talks for yourself: you ha** immigrants. And let me tell
you I ha** you and all Canadians so the love is reciprocating.
Andres. Nova Scotia.
March 31- 2005
Absolutely. A class action lawsuit against a corrupt Canadian government
and immigration policies that mislead professional and skilled
immigrants, steal their money, and lead them into extreme poverty.
Patrick. Montreal, Quebec.
March 31- 2005
I think the information on this web site is very good. Congratulations, and
I hope you achieve your goals.
Mauricio B. Mexico.
March 31- 2005
Dear Mario, you need to be commended for making a stand and bringing out
your point of view .Your comment will be noted and will serve as a good
starting point for discussions.
Case in point was an experience I personally had with the former
Minister of Finance MICHAEL WILSON at a “Community talks” Meeting in
Moncton NB back in the Mulroney years: Michael was the star guest
und speaker in one of the sessions. As it happened, at the lunch break
both of us doubled up in the line-up to be served and slowly moved
towards the food counter.
Since some reference of immigration had been made in the previous
proceedings I introduced myself and started talking about immigration
issues and the very problem most of us here face: RECOGNITION AND
ACCREDITATION OF EARNED CREDENTIALS. As soon as Mr. Michael Wilson
understood the concerns put to him, his attitude changed abruptly, his
so far friendly conversation stopped and he moved quickly into an area
to remove himself from any further question.
The viewpoint you subscribe to is very common, but seldom spelled out
clearly. But it is welcome, because now you also must hear my point of
view; that’s how discussions go.So please follow along with your letter.
I can not speak for my friends out there ,they must do their part(and
the did ,just look into archives), but again I bring my case up here
to make this argument. What do I (or any other skilled immigrant)
expect? You ask.
Start with being truthful (government agencies, policies etc). As we
write these contributions, job fairs (Alberta Government agencies and
others) are being prepared to lure “skilled immigrants” at locations in
BONN and DRESDEN (GERMANY) to come here. Surf the net and you will find
thousands of sites offering quick and happy immigration to this land;
many government sponsored, financed and approved, the rest is out to
suck money from unaware and vulnerable potential newcomers. Do you know
how much money is taken from Immigrants by Government (CANADA
IMMIGRATION) and Private Immigration Consultants? Find out about it!
I have checked, but no change to existing rules and regulations have
been made to really accommodate this mentioned group’s credentials. So
they might find work, but will eventually be trapped by credential
related problems. That’s what happened to me and many others. I had work
and if not made my own work as an entrepreneur (the big panacea for
mismanaged economy).
There where no problems to resolve here to settle in, many do fine( yes
we appreciate and need language training and settlement services).
Someone taking our hand you say? It is in this Country where I
heard the saying : “ WHO YOU KNOW NOT WHAT YOU KNOW !”
Sounds familiar eh ?? I like many others do realize, life is more often
than not hardship, and adjustments need to be made. The hardship
we are complaining about in this forum is imposed and maintained by acts
of law, deep resentments by too many and outright racism
(especially systemic).
Human Beings by their very nature can become xenophobic, yes outright
racist in extremes. They are not born that way. But like a disease it
can infect and spread and I claim we all have a small part in us. Be
happy that you didn’t meet it to the degree as reported in these pages.
I have experienced it and I am not even colored.
Now at this point in your letter you stumble and need adjusting of you
argument BIG TIME. When I last looked and listened , this country
at many levels cried out for help directly and in an undertone by
bemoaning certain events and happenings; please switch on the news ,
experience the emergencies dept. in Hospitals when you can’t find your
own doctor. If “ Walkerton” had hired proper engineers with skills and
ethics for their waterworks, death and suffering could have been
prevented.
So are you saying as a German Engineer (or any other trained ,skilled
immigrant) with two degrees recognized in the A class by FEANI
(European Engineers Association) I should stand by, washing dishes or
deliver Pizzas etc. until by fate, or chance ,or luck or what have you
some doors miraculously open?
I think you are kidding yourself big time; I have stacks of job ads
spelling out : Must be member of provincial Association of Engineers.
But thank you very much they really don’t want you. This is not” waiting
in line “ , Mark. It is called “gate keeping”. They don’t really say
that ,because that would be truthful. It is suggested “ mikel” you
repeat your studies. At my expense of course. You can call me stupid
that I didn’t go back. I should have.
But that still doesn’t make sense if Canada cries out for
more skilled Immigrants abroad and here, or does it? Go to CANADIAN TIRE
or any other supplier (business, commercial and retail) und count the
items made in this country. Very few, agree Mark? While meaningful jobs
(not minimum wage, underemployment, unskilled labour etc) are rare, in
contrast, gigantean efforts are made to strip any bit of resource out of
Canada’s Forests, Mines, Oil and Gas fields and fisheries (never mind
environmental concerns etc) to create wealth and GNP.
Open your eyes friend! Even with all the skilled immigrants
helping ,the Canadian workforce wouldn’t be big enough to produce
all the potential products and things imaginable and bought somewhere
else. Go check what is being unloaded (manufactured goods) day after day
coming from outside our borders. There is no need to protect “turf” here
in this country. But to progress other qualities have to enter:
Professional who deserves this title ,not by hiding behind artificial
barriers, but by demonstrating ingenuity , proper ethics ,fair
mindedness and yes better skills. And of course Governments( federal and
provincial) who not just talk but do the walk. These are the real
problems. Immigrants are not the problem , the Immigration reality is!
Michael S. Westville NS.
March 31- 2005
To Mark Rosario:
What are you doing in this messageboard, you are not an immigrant, just
want to create trouble? A fine attitude you display in your message. I
was specially disgusted with the sentence [.."My parents worked very .to
get to where they are today and help achieve my goals"..] It is all
about your goals your parents who were immigrants do not count for you,
they pampered you and sacrificed everything for you only to learn that
you have something against immigrants.
Andres from Nova Scotia already responded adequately to your post. Your
parents can live in poverty and suffer that is OK. It does not even make
you think something was wrong that they fell into poverty? [."What did
you expect? Did you think that all your problems would automatically
resolve themselves when you arrived here?"..] I had no problems they
started in Canada. [."Canada is a great country for immigrants"..].
Obviously it is not.
[."There is very little racism where all are treated equally"..]. Start
opening your eyes boy. [."don't expect to be better treated because
you're a doctor or a lawyer"..]. So now I know what this is about you
could not get yourself a university degree and now you envy lawyers and
doctors. [."You will have to wait in line like everyone else"..] Wake up
boy, we are waiting for what? We are here and we live here, what on
earth are we waiting for? [."Immigrating is difficult".] How would you
know without having first-hand experience? Actually your posting should
just be ignored but I want to take this occasion to lead people into our
members area where all the problems skilled immigrants face are being
looked at and analyzed from a rational perspective. Nothing for you
Mark, way over your head, don't even try.
Cheers
Hilde. British Columbia.
March 31- 2005
To Mark Rorario:
Hullalooh Mark,
you sound like Polly the Canadian Government Parrot!
Werner. British Columbia.
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